xp boot loader

Ok so I've installed Vista, and visually its impressive, but I haven't really put it to the test. I do most of my work in XP, and though some of you will think I'm crazy, I'd prefer to use XP's bootloader. When I used to dual-boot SuSE and XP, I used a great little program called Bootpart. I tried using bootpart to dual-boot XP and Vista, but alas, it fails. I can't seem to find any instructions anywhere out there that explain booting with XP's boot loader, only with Vista's. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

XP used "Boot.ini" for dual booting - Vista does not - Vista uses "BCD" (you will see references to BCDEDIT.EXE - this is an editor for creating, modifying, changing default OS, etc. BCD) Bcdedit.exe is a command line editor - typing "bcdedit.exe /?" at prompt provides info on modifying Vista boot manager.
"r_vandewater" wrote in message

Ok so I've installed Vista, and visually its impressive, but I haven't really put it to the test. I do most of my work in XP, and though some of you will think I'm crazy, I'd prefer to use XP's bootloader. When I used to dual-boot SuSE and XP, I used a great little program called Bootpart. I tried using bootpart to dual-boot XP and Vista, but alas, it fails. I can't seem to find any instructions anywhere out there that explain booting with XP's boot loader, only with Vista's. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

"r_vandewater" wrote in message

Ok so I've installed Vista, and visually its impressive, but I haven't really put it to the test. I do most of my work in XP, and though some of you will think I'm crazy, I'd prefer to use XP's bootloader. When I used to dual-boot SuSE and XP, I used a great little program called Bootpart. I tried using bootpart to dual-boot XP and Vista, but alas, it fails. I can't seem to find any instructions anywhere out there that explain booting with XP's boot loader, only with Vista's. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

Nice price- free.
Can be run from XP or Vista.
http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/index.php VistaBootPRO

strange, never heard of anyone using a boot loader for windows/suse other then grub. At one time i was running a quad boot between windows xp/win2k/suse/ubuntu.
"MICHAEL" wrote:

"r_vandewater" wrote in message Ok so I've installed Vista, and visually its impressive, but I haven't really put it to the test. I do most of my work in XP, and though some of you will think I'm crazy, I'd prefer to use XP's bootloader. When I used to dual-boot SuSE and XP, I used a great little program called Bootpart. I tried using bootpart to dual-boot XP and Vista, but alas, it fails. I can't seem to find any instructions anywhere out there that explain booting with XP's boot loader, only with Vista's. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Nice price- free.
Can be run from XP or Vista.
http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/index.php VistaBootPRO

It's not a bootloader- it is an editor for Vista's bootloader with a GUI that is easier for many to use and understand.
-Michael
"dfeifer" wrote in message

strange, never heard of anyone using a boot loader for windows/suse other then grub. At one time i was running a quad boot between windows xp/win2k/suse/ubuntu.
"MICHAEL" wrote:
"r_vandewater" wrote in message Ok so I've installed Vista, and visually its impressive, but I haven't really put it to the test. I do most of my work in XP, and though some of you will think I'm crazy, I'd prefer to use XP's bootloader. When I used to dual-boot SuSE and XP, I used a great little program called Bootpart. I tried using bootpart to dual-boot XP and Vista, but alas, it fails. I can't seem to find any instructions anywhere out there that explain booting with XP's boot loader, only with Vista's. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Nice price- free.
Can be run from XP or Vista.
http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/index.php VistaBootPRO

Ok so being as thought nobody has actually answered my question, I'll try and rephrase:Can you dual-boot XP and Vista from NTLDR? I found this post that says you can, but the instructions are alittle vague in one spot. https://www.cs-club.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=32218&sid=7a558b350dcd7e4a61246fb036b4037e By the way, Bootpart, the program I was talking about, takes the first 512k of a partition, which stores the boot data, puts that information in a file thats saved on your windows partition, and updates the boot.ini to point to that file.

Now that we are all confused, understand that dual boots should have XP on the first partition, and Vista on the second. Vista does not use ntldr, but winload which is in the windows\system32 file. The loader for your system, then, is Vista whether you 'like it' or not. The easiest way to change bcdedit (the operative file in Winload is to get Vistaboot, which will do everything but cook your lunch and its free. Then your desktop on boot will show both OSs and you can choose or determine which OS to boot, obviously XP in your case. Simple.
"r_vandewater" wrote:

Ok so being as thought nobody has actually answered my question, I'll try and rephrase:Can you dual-boot XP and Vista from NTLDR? I found this post that says you can, but the instructions are alittle vague in one spot. https://www.cs-club.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=32218&sid=7a558b350dcd7e4a61246fb036b4037e By the way, Bootpart, the program I was talking about, takes the first 512k of a partition, which stores the boot data, puts that information in a file thats saved on your windows partition, and updates the boot.ini to point to that file.

Ok is ti possible to get ride of Windows XP all together now that Vista is loaded? I am cramped on HD Space, and short of just reinstalling Vista is there any other way to get XP off. Not only that, since I installed vista and used the serial key and registerd will it let me redo the who process over again?

"JackM" wrote:

Now that we are all confused, understand that dual boots should have XP on the first partition, and Vista on the second. Vista does not use ntldr, but winload which is in the windows\system32 file. The loader for your system, then, is Vista whether you 'like it' or not. The easiest way to change bcdedit (the operative file in Winload is to get Vistaboot, which will do everything but cook your lunch and its free. Then your desktop on boot will show both OSs and you can choose or determine which OS to boot, obviously XP in your case. Simple.
"r_vandewater" wrote:
Ok so being as thought nobody has actually answered my question, I'll try and rephrase:Can you dual-boot XP and Vista from NTLDR? I found this post that says you can, but the instructions are alittle vague in one spot. https://www.cs-club.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=32218&sid=7a558b350dcd7e4a61246fb036b4037e By the way, Bootpart, the program I was talking about, takes the first 512k of a partition, which stores the boot data, puts that information in a file thats saved on your windows partition, and updates the boot.ini to point to that file.